he just won the election. big -- being really aggressive against the republicans, push them as far as he can push them -- >> for once. >> exactly. and see what the e response is. that might be enough to go to get them to make a reasonable compromise. >> you don't want the president to be set that you are constantly doing that floating thing out there. >> reactive. >> stop being reactive. >> where this is really going to matter is in the judicial appointments. this is where his legacy is going to be felt in 2022, 2026. you are going to have all these seat that is are vacant now and he needs to force through appointments there. >> there is the possibility, probably the probability at least one supreme court fight. the question is whether or not he tries to recess a point and use leverage now or wait. the fact is, in the next congress, he will have more leverage and more democrats. he that has moral authority. you have a lot of opportunities for the president to set the stage for him to impose the moral authority